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- Discussion Papers
Lessons
from the Classroom:
What we learn about effective pedagogy from teacher-student interactions
Christine Edwards-Groves, Catholic
Schools Office, Wagga Wagga, NSW
A keynote address presented at the
2001 AATE/ALEA Joint National Conference
ABSTRACT
Lessons
from the classroom what can we learn about ourselves, our teaching,
and what our students learn, by closely looking at the interactions in
the very context in which we work? What does looking at classroom transcripts
teach us about effective literacy practices? classroom life? professional
growth?
Teachers
have always understood the critical significance of good teaching to their
students learning. However the practical question for teachers is
what this looks like in actual classroom lessons and how they shape a
culture of authentic learning in schools, which prepares young people
for tomorrows world. Essentially, this paper establishes what lessons
can be learned about literacy practices by looking at classroom talk.
It simply focuses on the efficacy of classroom literacy lessons by assembling
the information about what is and can be accomplished by the talk of the
classroom and by demystifying the importance of teacher-student interactions
through transcript technology. The essential elements of classrooms literacy
practice are unpacked and highlighted in terms of its relationship to
interactive practices. The topics of talk (what is the focus of the talk
in literacy lessons) and the structure of lessons are reviewed. There
is a need for teachers to become involved in shaping the directions of
change at the fundamental level of practice in the best interests of their
students, and so the important implications for professional development
are highlighted.
KEY
WORDS
Classroom
Interaction, Literacy Teaching, Lessons, Explicit Teaching, Principles,
Professional Development
INTRODUCTION
Effective
teaching and learning of literacy is a primary matter of concern for contemporary
Australian society and one leading much of the educational discourse into
this century. Teachers in the day-to-day reality of the classroom are
constantly faced with the challenge of designing and implementing quality
literacy instruction. Although we all come to this task with a core ambition
to improve students literacy learning outcomes that will ensure
a literate future, the complexities of classroom life and the demands
of new curriculum and policy continually confront, and sometimes override,
these everyday teaching and learning encounters. What we teach, how we
teach it and how well we teach are main issues that have led to decades
of widespread debate. The perennial recurrence of the debate has led educational
administrations at the levels of state, system and school to respond to
this challenge in a number of ways.
Recently,
in response to this issue, particular government bodies have commissioned
reviews to report on the expectations and directions of teacher education
and provide recommendations to improve the quality of pedagogy (see eg,
Quality Matters-Revitalising Teachers: Critical times, critical choices,
Ramsey, NSW, 2000). The formulation of specific guidelines describing
the principles and practices underpinning effective learning and teaching,
for example, have also been promoted in the documentation of many education
systems across Australia over the past decade (see eg, Principles of
Effective Learning and Teaching, Dep of QLD, 1994; Todays
Children: Tomorrows Adults, Wagga Wagga Diocese, NSW, 2000).
Clearly these documents have been based on synthesising studies about
teacher efficacy and professionalism. They were prepared to guide the
pedagogical practices of teachers in the implementation of quality teaching
and learning in schools and to assist teachers in their role of shaping
the future of the children they teach. Whilst they were designed to acknowledge
the multiplicity, the complexity and the dynamic nature of the learning
and teaching process and its context, such publications or even the principles,
in themselves, are not sufficient to improve classroom literacy practices.
In the past such documentation, curriculum change and government publications
or even mandates have demonstrated change is possible at the level of
the educational rhetoric but the quality of literacy teaching practices
in classrooms have remained unchanged and the issue of efficacy has stayed
high on the educational agenda (Kyrakiades, 1997). Why? Perhaps teachers
have not been supported to focus professional improvement at the micro
level of practice: the level of talk.
In a
practical sense looking at the level of talk, described by Anstey (1996)
as the micro level of classroom practice, a picture of what
constitutes effective teaching and learning is made available which can
justifiably act as a springboard for focused educational change. Although
the issue of classroom interaction has emerged to be a pivotal topic in
discussions relating to explicit and effective instruction in many educational
forums, they have yet to move into the professional development arena
for teachers in any significant way. Consequently we are forced to ask
ourselves to assess the critical components for the future path of our
profession that will focus on how to support, improve and maintain teacher
quality and professionalism. In my view, what is critically and fundamentally
needed is for teachers themselves to focus pedagogical change at the micro
level of the lesson: the level of their teacher-student interactions.
CURRENT
RESEARCH
Research
such as the well-documented study by Freebody, Ludwig and Gunn (1995),
"Everyday Literacy Practices in and out of School in Low Socio-economic
Urban Communities" has paved the way for understanding the implications
of teacher-student interactions in Australian classrooms. This research
has not only captured the essence of the ever-increasing diversity among
teachers and students, but importantly it provides a background to classroom
interactive practices typically found in Australian classrooms across
a range of settings. Current educational media have taken up the reported
findings in a range of contexts to inform the future directions of learning
and teaching in this country. My own study has taken these findings into
the professional development arena by working collaboratively with teachers
in a way that focused their thinking on the relationship between their
own classroom interactive practices and effective pedagogy (Edwards-Groves,1998).
Transcripts
of Interaction Assist Teacher change
For the
group of teachers in my research, the patterns of interactions they observed
in their own classrooms (through examining transcript data and focused
reflection) in fact acted as a motivation for professional improvement
and change. Critically, looking at their classroom interaction patterns
showed them the details of the topic and management structures of their
literacy lessons. Specifically it captured what they set up to be of primary
importance in literacy lessons by displaying what topics were the main
point of the lesson, how the lessons progressed, what their
students heard to be the focal point of the lesson and how
lessons are concluded, what was made explicit, and what was
left implicit. In particular it was shown that systematic and explicit
pedagogy, major components of effective teaching, were absent or inconsistent
with their beliefs about their practice and about effective practice;
a revelation that acted as a springboard for interactional change for
this group.
Typical
of the comments made by the teachers after reviewing their own lessons
is this view from a Year 4 teacher:
Having
cooperative classrooms and being partners in learning have always been
important, yet explicit teaching as an effective teaching practice is
a very basic area in which this ideal has been lacking. Until I looked
at transcripts of my own lessons I thought I conducted focused teaching
and learning. I realised I didnt really understand what it meant
for the children. No one seems to have picked up on that and thats
why it came as a surprise to me that I wasnt doing it. It hit me
as a powerful way of creating an inclusive educational environment that
puts kids at the centre of the learning. We expect that children are to
be partners in developing self-discipline for example, we sit them down
and fully discuss expectations and implications, we allow them in on that,
but I believe we havent taken it that step further towards fully
allowing them in on their own learning. Learning about my own effectiveness
as a teacher in relation to explicit teaching and classroom interaction
is now a fairly big area of professional development for me and I learnt
it by looking at my own lesson transcripts.
Year
4 Classroom Teacher
Recognised
here is the point that focused review of your own teaching practice (via
transcript technology) enables teachers to make clear statements about
the effectiveness of their own work. These teachers redefined their view
of what a literacy lesson should look like and strongly suggest the importance
of this information for all teachers. Explicitly prioritising student
learning by changing their interactive practices resulted. Further, the
"Quality Teaching Project 1.8: Literacy Learning and Teaching
in the Classroom" in my local region has recently taken up aspects
of this information to go beyond curriculum, resources and strategies
to provide professional development focused on the importance of classroom
interaction. This program used the information developed by my research
group develop understandings at the fundamental level of practice (the
level of talk) by directly relating to the effectiveness of their interactive
practices and its relationship to quality teaching and learning. Collaborative
professional development programs incorporating in-class support and focused
reflection and lesson evaluation orients individual teachers toward specifically
improving their interactive practices in relation to their understandings.
This approach forms a principled program of improvement that assists teachers
make well-informed choices about learning and how to be better teachers
rather than a hope for the best approach reflected by a one-size-fits-all
professional development program.
This
presentation blends what theorists say, what teachers say and what classroom
practice looks like. It takes the main points of my study to draw attention
to effective teaching and learning practices by examining teacher-student
interactions within the context of classroom literacy lessons. The lessons
these teachers learned have implications for the learning and teaching
practices for all teachers. Pushing the boundaries to encompass the significance
of classroom interactions aims to shift our current understandings of
what constitutes effective literacy pedagogy in todays classrooms.
The interrelated themes of classroom literacy lessons, effective pedagogy
and teacher-student interactions are utilised to address these main questions:
- What constitutes
a literacy lesson? What is the role of classroom talk?
- What lessons do
our students learn in our classrooms?
- What lessons can
we learn about literacy teaching practices?
- What are the implications
for professional development?

TALK
WITHIN THE CLASSROOM CREATES THE SOCIAL AND LEARNING CONTEXT
Lets
turn to the classroom as a starting point. Classrooms provide the interactive
and physical context for student learning. All classrooms share one thing
in common - they are unique social sites in that the distinctive nature
of the classroom situation demands that teaching and learning happen whilst
simultaneously constructing roles and relationships between teachers and
students. Teachers and students create, through talk, the social classroom
context on which they rely to support instructional talk. They use their
knowledge of that context to generate appropriate behaviour, and the appropriateness
of that behaviour, in turn, serves to define the context in which they
interact (Edwards and Furlong, 1979). Students learn the way of the school
by participating in it.
Studies
of both how classrooms work and of literacy practices within the classroom
context give attention to the organisation of classroom discourse whilst
providing descriptions of effective practices. These studies offer a powerful
way of showing the development of classrooms as a unique social culture
and the situated construction of literacy practices through the life of
the classroom (Edwards and Furlong, 1979; Willes, 1983; Heap, 1985, 1992;
Baker & Freebody, 1989; Gee, 1990; Baker, 1991; Anstey1993, 1996;
Freebody, Ludwig and Gunn, 1995).
Lessons
as an interactive event: What is accomplished by classroom talk? What
lessons do our students learn?
Classroom
talk is distinctive and easily recognisable. Transcripts of classroom
interaction, such as the one below, clearly demonstrate that classrooms
provide the both interactive and physical context for school learning.
This context affords a highly complex set of interpersonal interactions
that serve to simultaneously assemble the social relationships between
teacher and student as it organises student learning, a relationship well
documented (Baker & Freebody, 1989; Baker, 1991; Edwards-Groves, 1998,
Freebody, Ludwig and Gunn, 1995; Luke 1995). Talk shapes the context (the
culture of the classroom), organises students for learning and the learning
itself.
Teacher: What
were talking about is what we did on the weekend. Now Ive
already told you I went skiing and stuff like that on the weekend as well,
but, also I watched some TV shows. Hands up if you watched TV on the weekend?
(Children put hands up) Whatya watch James?
James: Ah,
Umm/
Teacher: /Whatcha
watch, Lucy? Did you watch any television on the weekend?
Lucy: Cartoons
Transcripts,
such as this, demonstrate how talk is at the core of the interpersonal,
social and intellectual relationships between teachers and students within
the context of the classroom. What is talked about or learned (what
we did on the weekend) is inextricably linked with cultural social
organisations of the classroom (hands up and nominating turns
at talk). We learn that classroom talk is a main tool for teaching,
for thinking and for learning. It is an entry into written language and
the main way in which students encounter and learn about the ways or the
culture of the school (Baker & Freebody, 1989). Regardless of what
texts or curriculum documents are used for example, it is through the
talk and patterns of interaction that the learning is enacted and made
visible.
The effectiveness
of the classroom teaching and learning practices hinges on the effectiveness
of the interaction practices. In order to identify what is learnt by our
students it is necessary to establish what teachers talk
about and how students hear what the lesson is about; that
is, how they mutually engage the literacy through their interactions.
To illustrate this it is necessary to look at classroom lessons via transcript
technology, which helps teachers to interpret their everyday teaching
and learning routines, instructional focus, establish what is effective
and ultimately, what is achieved by classroom talk. They show what happens
in classrooms, and how literacy events unfold. Reading the transcripts
enabled the teachers to work over the lesson (transcript or
taped lesson) for what it revealed on a moment-by-moment, turn-by-turn
basis. They allow us to reflect in a focused way about whether similar
or different approaches might be useful for student learning in future
lessons. Significantly, what the group of teachers in my study learned
reflected main findings from other research (eg, Freebody, Ludwig and
Gunn, 1995) but they collaboratively supported in taking this new knowledge
back to their practice. Their learning shaped the future directions for
learning and teaching in their classrooms.
What
teachers can learn about literacy lessons?
If we
look through the door of any classroom, what do we notice to be going
on? What lessons are taking place? What do we understand a lesson to be?
Although on the surface these appear to be quite banal questions, we must
look deeply at our understandings and what has shaped them. When we think
about what we understand a lesson to be our immediate thoughts turn first
to the teaching and learning of aspects of literacy. We might even simply
say lessons are about teaching and learning. However, we need to look
deeper at the fundamental level of practice. Lessons first and foremost
are an evolving interactive process.
Lesson
Beginnings
As a
starting point we examine how some lessons begin will be. The beginning
of the lesson is the foundation stone from where the learning is built.
It importantly is the point where the learning is put centre stage and
has the power of influencing the successful progression of the learning
event for our students. Starting lessons effectively must be a priority
for all teachers. It sets the scene, so that all students are focusing
on the purposes and processes for learning and establishes the context
in which this learning will take place. Looking at task introductions
of the following literacy lessons shows the topics teachers set up as
the main point for students to focus thinking and activity.
In
reviewing their practice the teachers learned that what counts as the
main topic in a lesson for students may be any number of things, and it
is the responsibility of the teaching to make specific learning intentions
clear at the beginning of the lesson for all students to hear. And the
instructional focus needs to be maintained throughout the learning event.
Students do not have access to the lesson purpose unless it is clearly,
and publicly, set out for them from the onset of the learning and maintained
throughout the lesson. These aspects of teaching draw attention to the
importance of classroom interaction as being the pivotal resource for
effective teaching. How teachers set up the learning context through their
talk can be a primary indicator of lesson effectiveness.
| Transcript
1: Year 4/5/6:Learning purpose (nominated prior to lesson): Writing
a news report (post-intervention transcript) |
| T: Today
we are continuing on with our work on News Reports we are actually
going to be learning how to write some (5.0). Weve learnt
theres lots of different types of news reports, can be in
the paper, can be on the radio, can be in a magazine, could be on
TV and theyre all written the same way. Did you know that
- Jemima? There all written following a certain pattern, today we
are going to look at some newspaper reports to find out about that
pattern
. |
Students
clearly heard is that the lesson is about learning to
write newspaper reports. The literacy topic was clearly
presented as the focus for thinking and learning about.
|
In
comparison, the next example shows the focal topic of talk was the classroom
theme insects. The teacher explicitly foregrounded this lesson
to be about praying mantis. The introductory statement How
could we give those praying mantiss a drink? (see turn 1) lead students
to think about praying mantiss as the primary topic of the lesson.
There was no orientation to specific literacy learning, or even to
the teachers intended purpose in this instance.
| Transcript
2: Year 2/3/4-Learning purpose (nominated prior to lesson): How
to write a science report using a Shared Reading Text |
| 1.T: How
could we give those praying mantis a drink, Kyle what do you think?
2.Kyle: We
could get a container dig a hole in the dirt and stick that in
3.T: Right[
4.Kyle: And
fill up with water
5.T: Right
and that wouldnt be a bad idea actually would it, but of course
the trouble is, what might happen when people putting insects into
the container |
From
the onset of this reading lesson the major topic of talk was about
insects. At times there was a shift to discussing terrariums, the
water-cycle and evaporation. At no point in the 45 minute opening
segment of talk was the purpose of the lesson writing science
reports introduced. |
Effective
teachers prepare the learning path by explicating instructional goals
and the lesson rationale by paying careful attention to what we
talk about in lesson. It is an essential characteristic of effective teaching
and learning practice. What we can learn from this excerpt is the importance
of clearly orienting students to specific learning outcomes. Whilst at
times thematic talk is appropriate for some lesson purposes, we need to
be mindful that if themes and texts are announced as the topic
for talk then the intended learning purposes are blurred. Themes and text
need to treated as the vehicles through which learning literacy outcomes
are achieved. Children are less able to understand the object of the lesson,
and thus able to achieve it, when unable to discern whether the teachers
talk relates to:
- the learning purposes
of the lesson
- classroom management
or organisation, or
- general everyday
culturally familiar experiences or thematic topics
Essential
Focused links within Lessons
Turning
to the way lessons are maintained, concluded and reviewed, teachers learnt
how explicit links between lesson introductions, lesson purposes, instructional
sequences and lesson conclusions are necessary. Maintaining the literacy
focus works toward maximising students encounters with the objective of
the lesson and ensures the lesson counted as valuable literacy learning.
Many lessons in my sample however, showed the talk to be regularly shifting
from literacy to everyday familiar themes in an incidental
or even ad hoc fashion. Rather than maintaining the literacy focus routine
digressions into other topics emerged as a regular teaching practice.
By
observing lesson conclusions we can learn how this feature of an effective
literacy lesson enables connections to be made to lesson purposes. Typically,
however, these were absent in the lessons from my sample, these simply
concluded with wrapup statements. For this group of
teachers lessons initially stopped abruptly without orientation to the
literacy learning objectives of the lesson or review of the primary lesson
points. The lesson conclusions were simply a signal to pack up,
rather than treated as an opportunity to harness and review specific learning.
| Transcript
3: Year 2/3: Learning purpose : Comprehension sheet, doing a CLOZE.
|
| Teacher:
Okay, Okay, come on. Please sit down, thats enough of that,
I think, youre getting a bit noisy, I hope youre finished
that sheet otherwise you can do it for homework. ((Background chatter)).
|
The
lesson concluded with a brief signal and a remark orienting to the
production of work - I hope youre finished that sheet
indicating to students that completing the task was the primary
concern. There was no links made to learning about literacy.
|
What
we learn by these examples is that talk, with the specific purpose to
review or summarise specific aspects of learning, is a feature of effective
teaching. It emerged to be considered by these teachers as a significant
way to connect the learning purposes to learning outcomes for students.
These teachers recognised this and made statements such as:
Remembering
to allow time in the lesson for a review of learning is a big area of
change for me. I recognised its relevance and importance to the whole
lesson as soon as I realised it wasnt a part of my lessons at all.
Year
2/3 Classroom Teacher
Time
for review of literacy learning at the end of lessons needs to be considered
as an integral part of the lesson. Consider this excerpt where literacy
outcomes were explicitly connected to what was happening in the lesson
and at the end of the lesson. The teacher acknowledged the importance
of the lesson review (see the comments below).
| Transcript
4: Year 4/5/6: Learning purpose: Writing news reports |
| 434
T: Ok, before we move on to our reading lets re-cap on
what we have been learning. There was a pattern that is in most
news reports that we have been learning about. Give me a "w"
word that we use when were writing news reports, Phillipa?
((Pause)) Theres five to choose from. |
In
this lesson conclusion the teacher focuses the talk on what was
learnt about this lesson. It clearly relates what aspect of literacy
learning was the main point of the lesson. This feature seen here
was motivated by its absence in previous classroom lessons.
|
The
lesson review provides us with information about what needs reteaching..
gives you direction as to which children understand.. formative assessment
..used for future planning
engages the learners in the total learning
process.. enables a system of independent self-evaluation, where the children
can clearly articulate their own learning in relation to the stated focus....its
a partnership in evaluation because they know what was expected and they
can see how they were able to demonstrate it, and how well they understood
or learnt it.
Year
4 Classroom Teacher
A
lesson is not the activity or task, nor is it the texts or resources we
use, it is not the teaching program, the syllabus or its prescripted outcomes,
nor is it the groups we arrange or the even the product of activity. These
elements impact on what we talk about in a lesson, but primarily
they are vehicles that are utilised in the process of interaction. Clearly,
the partnership between teaching and learning and teacher and learner
is forged by the talk of the classroom. Transcript 5 shows how
the focus (or topic) of classroom talk often has a tenuous relationship
to student learning of specified outcomes.
| Transcript
5: Year 4 Learning purpose - Learning how to spell the list
words |
| 304
T:
Piglets, lets look at that word. Now as we said
a moment ago, young pigs are called?
305
Ss: Piglets
306
T: Theres a very famous piglet, in books
307
S: I know
308
T: Who is it?
309
S: Babe
310
T: Ohh I wasnt thinking of Babe but thats not a bad
answer is it? I was thinking of another piglet, and Babe has beaten
us all, Babe started of as a piglet then grew into a pig -
311
S: And he was//
312
T: //Uhh
313S: Piglet
out of Winnie the Pooh
314
T: Yes the piglet in Winnie the Pooh was what I was thinking
of, but thats a good answer Babe, Ill have to accept
that one, seeing as, has anyone seen Babe?........ |
Within
this part of the spelling lesson, the talk here turned to a 20 minute
discussion on "Babe" the movie. Talk centred pigs, the
site where the film was made, sheep dogs and so on. At no point
in the lesson was how to spell piglets approached
in any significant way. Such school routines appear to be taken
up as a good thing to talk about and are often viewed
by the teachers as in inclusive approach (and possibly treated as
a deliberate digression by the students). |
In viewing
lessons like this from a socio-cultural perspective we need to continually
ask ourselves what messages are we leaving our students with?
What the students learn here is that talk about themes
or everyday familiar topics (a term used by Freebody & Frieberg, 1995)
is the primary focus, they learn that learning how to spell means successfully
participating in such topical talk. . The everyday conversational topic
farm animals appear to drive the lesson, and often, references
to literacy learning is incidental or implicit. After this lesson the
teacher described this discussion as terrific because all the
kids were involved. However after reading the transcript, the
teacher shifted his view on what went on, to say:
In
reading my transcripts I thought where is the literacy learning?
I think we were encouraged to let lessons go off onto any tangent. Letting
the topic go in any direction was seen as good, but I dont allow
that to happen now. Now, what the findings have shown me is that I have
permission to say Okay thats not really what we are talking
about now, we are actually talking about such and such. And thats
a way of reinforcing what learning is actually going on and getting the
children back on track and not to digress into talking about all these
other topics. You dont let the childrens minds waft and wander
around onto irrelevant topics, they keep focused and on track, and on
learning about specific aspects of literacy.
Year
4 Classroom Teacher

What
messages are leaving with students?
The
social organisations and interactions encountered in lessons
in reading and writing enables children to become acculturated into being
literate in the everyday world. In the same sense, students
learn that particular social and organisational routines are associated
with becoming literate. Complying with school routines (eg, hands up,
one speaker at a time, turn taking) are often prioritised as they are
learning about aspects of literacy (eg, concepts of print, phonemic awareness,
text types, spelling and vocabulary, word processing, writing, skimming,
scanning, summarising, topic sentences etc). The transcript example below
shows how participation in the lesson requires student compliance
with the interactive routines or patterns of the classroom.
| Transcript
4: Year 1 Learning purpose - Learning about text characters
from "Mrs Wishy Washy" |
| T: Okay
lets have a look at this picture here, up here on this page. Here
we have those naughty characters, and arent they getting into
an awful mess. ((Background chatter12.0)) Sitting down everyone,
get in a spot where you can see. ((Children shuffling around)) Right,
who are the characters in this story, those messy//
Mitchell: //Pig,
the duck
T: Oh
no, you dont call out when were doing our reading
Mitchell. Weve got to what? Carmon?
Carmon: Put
our hands up
T: Yes,
what else, yes?
S: wait
your turn
T:
Wait your turn, good/
S: /dont
call out
T: Good
boy, yes, thats right when were doing our reading groups
please remember those important Year 1 rules in our reading; no
calling out, hands up and waiting for your turn. Now, back to the
picture, who are these messy characters here? Oh look here
.
|
Within
this part of a book reading lesson, school routines and participation
rights (waiting to be nominated for a turn to talk, not calling
out and hands up) are clearly understood by teachers and students.
And this is made clear and understood, by teacher and children,
when they establish that we dont call out and put hands
up when we do reading. Doing school reading means
behaving in a particular way. |
Transcript
4 clearly shows that the culture of the classroom evolves through
the talk. It demonstrates that literacy learning is embedded within particular
school routines and patterns of interactive participation. It shows how
students are typically drawn into being interactive participants in their
lessons; they comply with the interactive norms constructed
by teachers. What is heard by the students is that this lesson
is about complying with important Year 1 rules. And if they dont,
it is made clear that no calling out, hands up and waiting for
your turn are associated with learning to read. The lesson here
is that the children will learn how to participate appropriately in order
to achieve literacy success one clearly hinges on the other. Students
participate in constructing classroom interactions and consequently participate
in teaching and in their own learning.
When
classroom learning is only loosely related to a focused set of literacy
objectives, students experience a blurring of objectives that make it
difficult for them to know what is required of them cognitively. Examination
of classroom literacy practice has shown that in many classrooms, explicit
teaching almost routinely directed to developing classroom participation
skills and behaviour rather than to developing specific literacy knowledge
and skills. As a result the learning task becomes a secondary concern
as management and organisation are given priority.
Successful
participation in literacy learning is often shown by teachers to rely
on the successful participation in classroom organisational routines.
Students learn that literacy learning is therefore linked to behaving
in a particular way in classrooms, and so it is within school type
talk literacy learning is achieved. Furthermore, in the same sense,
successful participation in school routines is often taken by teachers
to be successful teaching and learning. For example, if children are behaving
appropriately and successfully engaging in the participation routines
like hands up and no calling out then learning has
taken place and the lesson is deemed successful. We often
consider the child who is complying with these classroom norms to be the
best learners. Importantly, from a socio-cultural perspective,
this only demonstrates the students are successfully engaging in a particular
interactive routine, not in learning about literacy.
Many
shifts to attend to logistical management issues in the classroom suspend
the focus of the pedagogy from literacy learning to behaviour management.
"Lessons for all" is an interactive management strategy
that routinely serves to teach all students about the right way to behave
(consider the example below as a lesson about litter is given).
Everyday management of classrooms is necessary and it is not practical
to suggest that teachers should not attend to behaviour. But teachers
are asked to think about management as potential interruption to the learning
and successful achievement of literacy outcomes. The possibility of individualisation
of behaviour management should be considered so that orientations to management
do not override the learning focus. A strong sense of moral order should
not dominate the talk of the classroom to such an extent that the learning
focus is masked.
| Transcript
6 Year 4: Learning purpose (nominated prior to lesson) - Reading
groups |
| T: //Right
Good. I want you to go back and find those four answers,
..
Look, Dont worry what someone else is doing Gary. See those
pieces that fall down there you were told to put them somewhere.
Youll be telling me tomorrow you cant find them. Trim
them up and stick them in your book somewhere, put them in loosely.
All these little bits and pieces of rubbish I want you to put them
in the correct place now. Remember everyone its litter if
its lying around,(the ground) and it its put in rubbish bin its
not litter, its garbage, theres a difference. You must
learn that. Now, Ari go back to your desk and get to work.((Student
moving to put rubbish in bins)). Everybody seated and mouths turned
off when youre doing reading groups. Im going to speak
to one group at a time and I dont want to be interrupted Kate.
When I come to your group, be ready to participate and cooperate
and join in. Now back to work
. |
This
lengthy segment demonstrates the way a literacy focus is suspended
to attend to managerial issues. The pep talk (the lesson
about rubbish) reflects a local moral order and issues comment strong
on acceptable student behaviour (what you must learn in order to
participate) were the main thrust of many segments of talk in this
classroom. |
The teacher
made these observations about this type of lesson excerpt:
I
see that the management of behaviour can really run in and take away a
lot of valuable time from actual teaching learning. Its not until
you actually observe yourself, and look at those transcripts from a childs
point of view that you see how has this affected lesson continuity for
them. If you think about how has this lesson progressed in the childs
eyes, I realised that talk relating to behaviour management was more of
an issue and more widespread than what I would have thought before. I
can actually see the impact on the success of the lesson in terms of how
the learning is being interrupted.
Year
4 Classroom Teacher
The social
organisation of classrooms through talk relates to how much of the learning
space is taken up with attending to behaviour and management issues. The
teacher comments challenge us to address attention to behaviour as an
issue that specifically relates to effective student learning. It is an
issue that has the potential to interrupt the flow of the lesson and consequently
the learning. We need to consider these questions:
- Is the whole
class called away from the learning task to attend to every misdemeanour?
- Does
the lesson focus shift from literacy learning to becoming a lesson on
the right way to behave, whereby a strong sense of moral
order is a main concern?
- How
regularly does management talk cut across the instruction?
- Are
orientations to student behaviour formalised and systematic, or informal
and incidental?
- Is
a particular pep-talk system of behaviour recruited to manage
student behaviour?
- Is
the whole class called to attention when behavioural issues are addressed
in class?
- Does one indiscretion
call for a-lesson-for-all in how to behave correctly?
The literacy
learning must remain the focal topic of talk in any lesson and what is
to be learnt needs to remain a primary concern. Care must be taken not
to blur the learning objective by calling for whole class attention to
address issues related to behaviour. Significantly, meaningful learning
comes from meaningful talk. If we focus our talk on specific aspects of
literacy, we focus our instruction. Therefore we need to be mindful of
what we focus our interaction on the learning outcomes? the texts?
the resources? the theme? the groups? the activity? the product? the behaviour
of students?

WHAT
LESSONS ABOUT LITERACY TEACHING PRACTICES CAN TEACHERS LEARN FROM ANALYSING
TALK? IMPLICATIONS FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT
Talk
in classrooms has different purposes. However, lesson talk
must be largely instructional rather than conversational. By reviewing
their own lesson transcripts the teachers in my research reconceptualized
their understandings of what constitutes a lesson and their
comments provide compelling accounts of the importance of classroom interaction,
explicit teaching and their impact on student learning. This comment illustrates
this shift in understanding:
I
now know that a lesson really relies on more than the syllabus, or the
books or the activities I planned. It is more about how I interact with
my students, how I engage students in their learning through my talk.
I didnt realise the importance of it until I looked at my transcripts.
I now continually listen to myself and ask what did the kids hear?
and is that what I want them to focus on?
Year
4/5/6Teacher
Specifically
orienting to classroom talk has significant implications for professional
development, a point highlighted by the teachers in my own study. Although
it is important for teachers to acknowledge and understand the role of
theory in professional development, it is more critical for the change
enterprise to begin at the fundamental level of the classroom the
level of talk. There is a need to extend teacher knowledge about the role
of classroom interactions so that they can refocus delivery to be about
specific literacy learning.
The
power of focused reflection and review
Purposeful
reflection and review of the interactions in our classrooms partly moves
us toward addressing the effective approaches to professional development.
This will advance and inform our thinking to improve our pedagogical practice.
For example the clarity and availability of the purpose for literacy instruction
effects the successful progression of literacy lessons. Hence we clearly
need to provide systematic patterns of explication, as confusion about
the specific nature of the task is exemplified when this is not evident.
The power of focused reflection is clearly oriented to here, when this
teacher exemplifies the importance of explicating the lesson focus in
relation to her own learning:
The
explication of the lesson focus is such a very basic thing to do but it
is something that has been missed out along the way from my lessons. It
is important to me as a learner, when I go to a meeting or an in-service
I like to have a structure placed before me so that I know what are the
expected outcomes of the session so that I can just internalise more about
what is happening. I need to know where were leading so that I can
develop and build on to what I already know
and presume it is the
same for children. I think that they need to have the security of knowing
what is going on, they then can become better learners and evaluators
of their own learning
Year
4 Classroom Teacher
The efficacy
of our literacy instruction is located within the parameters of the talk
encounters in our classrooms. In essence classroom interaction is linked
to effective classroom literacy practices and we therefore are compelled
to question the interactive practices in our classroom. Focused reflection
of this context the classroom literacy lesson - enables a redefinition
what teachers know and understand about effective pedagogy that is directly
related to their classroom literacy practices. Teachers need to have the
opportunity to take a step back and review practices in a focused way.
They need to know what to think about and to focus on in order to improve;
it is difficult doing this on the run as a player (as an interactive
participant in the classroom). The importance of teacher self-reflection
cannot be underestimated. Teachers need to recognise that reflecting on
their own practice in a systematic way can lead to a more explicitly focused
learning environment, as pointed out by this teacher:
Looking
at transcripts of my own lessons forced me to think about what I am doing
and why, in a very focused way, something I would not normally have the
chance to do. If we are serious about improving our practice then I think
all teachers should reflect on their practice in relation to the classroom
talk, especially on how they set up their lessons and about what our kids
are actually learning
Year
4 Classroom Teacher
The following
questions provide a guide, but no detail, as to how teachers can review
the effectiveness of their own work. They are useful in applying them
to current teaching practice. (Examination and observation of actual and
recorded lessons and lesson transcripts provide the necessary detail.)
Therefore using focused reflection (see questions below) as an approach
guides teachers to orient to specific aspects of their work. It keys them
in to thinking about meaningful learning through meaningful interaction.
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FOCUSED
REFLECTION ON TEACHING
- How
do we construct literacy lessons? What is foregrounded at the
beginning of a lesson (what do we say the lesson is about)?
- What
do we talk mainly about? What is made explicit in our lessons?
- Do
our students hear and understand what the lesson is
about in relation to specific literacy learning?
- Does
our talk fully engage learners in their learning?
- What
literacy learning is left implicit, to be learnt incidentally?
- What
learning is made transferable to other situations? What learning
remains trapped within a single lesson?
- Do
we treat texts, themes, activities and resources as vehicles in
which specific literacy learning can emerge successfully? Or are
they the primary focus?
- Are
we accomplishing what we are setting out to teach? How do we know?
- Do
we conclude lessons with connections to literacy learning?
- Do
students orient to learning, to aspects of literacy in their talk?
- Does
the management of behaviour cut into the learning?
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The importance
of interactive practices (and what lessons can be learned from observing
them) need to be stated both within and outside the boundaries of traditional
points of focus for programs of professional development, such as curriculum,
resources and strategies. In seeking to improve the efficacy
of current teaching and learning practices it is necessary for teachers
to locate literacy pedagogy within its social context. Without supporting
teachers with a clear picture of what effective pedagogy looks like or
sounds like in the "everyday" classroom lesson, teachers will
be left to ask "what does this mean to me in my classroom, for my
teaching, for my group of children?"

CONCLUSION
Just
as definitions of literacy are evolving so too is the nature of
teaching it and the understandings and knowledge of effective pedagogy.
In seeking answers to questions about the efficacy of current teaching
and learning practices, theorists and educationalists are turning to viewing
classroom practice through the lens of ethnography because, critically
as shown in my study, it provides a detailed picture of the nature of
teaching within its context. In particular, over the past decade such
ethnomethodological accounts of teaching have evolved that have informed
and re-shaped traditional understandings of what constitutes effective
practice by going beyond simple the surface level descriptions of it.
We need to use these accounts of "what is effective classroom practice
that focus on classroom talk" to shape the directions of future effective
pedagogy. Focused educational change that aims to improve the quality
of classroom interactions, supports both teachers in their teaching context
and students in their learning.
Just
as teachers want guarantees about the quality of further learning opportunities
made available to them, so too should the teaching community provide these
guarantees for students we need to guarantee how well our students
are being prepared for their future by reconnecting teaching with learning.
We want our lessons to be ones worth learning, and we can guarantee this
by explicitly harnessing all opportunities for effective literacy learning.
What
is suggested in this paper is that taking teachers back to the micro-level
of practice is an approach that plays a fundamental role in answering
questions about effective classroom literacy practices; one that must
be made available to educators at all levels of service and a critical
starting point for their professional journey of renewal and growth. Unless
we look deeply beyond the surface of classroom teaching and view the interactive
practices that unfold in the context of any lesson, our understandings
about effective pedagogy and teacher change will simply remain at the
surface level. It is suggested here that a new direction for understanding
the effectiveness of our classroom literacy practices in relation to classroom
interaction be launched as a priority for ongoing professional development.
This approach accounts for meaningful learning through meaningful interactions.
This will lead to meaningful futures for our young people on their journey.
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